Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said Sunday he was surprised Mark Meadows, former President Trump’s White House chief of staff, decided to take the stand in the Georgia 2020 election case, calling his testimony a “Hail Mary to escape a potential conviction.”

In an interview on MSNBC’s “Inside with Jen Psaki,” Schiff underscored the tremendous risk involved in taking the stand and said such a bold move suggests Meadows is desperately trying to find a way to avoid conviction.

On whether he was surprised by Meadows’s testimony last Monday, Schiff said he was “not surprised so much by what he had to say, as the fact that he said it all, that he felt the need to take that gamble, that big gamble, by taking the stand.”

“I think it’s an indication both of the fact that he feels he needs to some kind of a Hail Mary to escape a potential conviction, but also that if he were successful in moving the case to federal court, he has the potential to knock it out completely by arguing immunity,” Schiff added.

“But I think he feels it necessary to take such a profound risk with this testimony,” he said

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